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MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:17 pm

As topic says guys what size do I need- is it 12mm 1.25 pitch plugs?

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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Moise » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:54 pm

polar wrote:As topic says guys what size do I need- is it 12mm 1.25 pitch plugs?

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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:32 pm

Moise wrote:
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polar wrote:As topic says guys what size do I need- is it 12mm 1.25 pitch plugs?

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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Boz » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:26 pm

The blanking plugs are 12mm x 1.25 thread pitch as I have them fitted on my R1M with copper washers, I then fitted a single 18mm bung for the Bosch wide band sensor for FTecu and ActiveTune.

Here's the proof, lol :)
https://www.r1-forum.com/threads/o2-sen ... ze.566962/

Are you having a play with tuning Mark?
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:14 pm

Boz wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:26 pm
The blanking plugs are 12mm x 1.25 thread pitch as I have them fitted on my R1M with copper washers, I then fitted a single 18mm bung for the Bosch wide band sensor for FTecu and ActiveTune.

Here's the proof, lol :)
https://www.r1-forum.com/threads/o2-sen ... ze.566962/

Are you having a play with tuning Mark?

Boz thank you this info its spot on :clap: :banana-angel:

Yes mate ive been procrastinating for far too long :lol:

Ive decided to get it remapped but keep the Cat for the time being (maybe permanently?) - im a sissy nowadays and i dont want it too noisy :lol:

The lambda sensors will become defunct so ill probably just remove them and blank them off.

To be honest the shape and size of the cat does not upset me like it does quite a few people, but i do suspect im the odd one out :doh:

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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Boz » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:02 pm

Sounds good!

I don't want to spoil your party but I'm sure I've read somewhere you could have issues losing the sensors and keeping the cat. Hopefully I'm wrong in this instance!
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:58 am

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Sounds good!

I don't want to spoil your party but I'm sure I've read somewhere you could have issues losing the sensors and keeping the cat. Hopefully I'm wrong in this instance!
The only thing im aware of is the remap + AIS delete will reduce the life of the cat. Other than that its just a silencer box.

If you have other info i need to be aware of please tell me.

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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Boz » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:05 am

I've found a link on here viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15369&p=230754&hil ... rs#p230754 if that's any help.

The issue lies in removing the O2 sensors that are fitted before the cat as they read the fuelling going into the cat, so removal of the sensors can cause the cat to overheat which makes sense.

Probably best to ask a tuner their opinion.
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:41 am

Boz wrote:I've found a link on here viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15369&p=230754&hil ... rs#p230754 if that's any help.

The issue lies in removing the O2 sensors that are fitted before the cat as they read the fuelling going into the cat, so removal of the sensors can cause the cat to overheat which makes sense.

Probably best to ask a tuner their opinion.
Thanks Boz I'll have a look.

However my lambda sensors are being deleted so they won't work. The fueling is going to 13.5 to 1 average from 15.5 to 1 average the AIS is being deleted and the cooling fan cut in dropped to 98 degrees. With all that the cats cannot overheat, in fact they will probably run too cool to work anywhere near optimum. If you see what I'm saying.

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Amendment - ive just read the link Boz and what im doing is totally different as above with the AIS deleted there will be no oxygen in the cat for the fuel to burn. I will probably flood the cat with more fuel than it can cope with due to the heat loss, richer mixture and no AIS but that is about it. Ive never seen a cat block yet so on any vehicle bike, car or truck by remapping, but i doubt they would pass a regular MOT cat test - as tested with petrol cars but not diesel cars or trucks.

But thanks for the heads up mate.
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Boz » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:21 pm

That sounds fair enough, I thought I'd let you know the possible worst scenario.
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:24 pm

Boz wrote:
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That sounds fair enough, I thought I'd let you know the possible worst scenario.
Ive just added an amendment Boz to clarify things a bit more - thanks again mate its always good to debate :clap:
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Moise » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Fast Bikes melted the cat on a Gixxer thou after tuning it. But I can't recall exactly how they managed that dubious achievement. :) I only bought the occasional issue of FB so it should be easy to find.

Anyway, I can't see how you could overheat the cat in road use.
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by polar » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:19 pm

Moise wrote:Fast Bikes melted the cat on a Gixxer thou after tuning it. But I can't recall exactly how they managed that dubious achievement. :) I only bought the occasional issue of FB so it should be easy to find.

Anyway, I can't see how you could overheat the cat in road use.
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Re: MT10 R1 Lanber sensor blanking plug size?

Post by Moise » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:25 pm

This is the most useful thing I've ever had from FB.

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Post by newsh » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:20 pm

FB was legendary when Frosty Bollox and Jimarillo were riding and Schiller was owner and editor, the VHS videos were epic ( for the time) but that was 20 odd years ago.
In fact Shakey was on some of them I think, did he even have a road licence?
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Moise wrote:This is the most useful thing I've ever had from FB.

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Post by Steve R1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:21 am

Fast bikes, I used to a subscriber. I knew Dan Harris and Richard Newland very well when Fan was editor, then when he left for the second time, Richard (Moby) took over.

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Post by polar » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:38 am

I remember a road tester around 2002 called Woody - that guy could ride, he was nuts even by my standards but I really liked him. I think he was killed in an accident, sad

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Post by newsh » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:56 am

Found one of the Mach videos, there’s a ZZR11 and a 4XV in it. Jimmy, Frost and Shakey Byrne are there.
I think Jimmy had so many outstanding tickets he ended up leaving the country lol.

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Post by Boz » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:14 pm

The last time I bought Fast Bikes was a few years back when this beanie hat was free with it, I still wear it in the garage when it's cold!! :lol:

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Boz wrote:The last time I bought Fast Bikes was a few years back when this beanie hat was free with it, I still wear it in the garage when it's cold!! :lol:

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