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Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:29 pm
by jompy
NoExpert wrote:Looks fantastic! Braided lines are also on my list, but in terms of transforming the bike, those three things have made a huge difference. Maybe not power making difference, but feel, control and confidence difference.
As it’s a US bike the flash will get you more power by removing the throttle restrictions. Also, when you tear it apart next, remove the plenum and chop off the restrictor from it. I’d recommend doing this the same time you install a y-pipe and smog block off plates since you need to remove the plenum to get to the AIS system and spark plugs for that matter.
Your saying Chuds has a US bike ?
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:21 pm
by Chuds1
jompy wrote:
Your saying Chuds has a US bike ?
Yes its a US bike which I was a bit disappointed about. The bike never made it to the US though it was first registered in the UK. I never knew when I bought the bike as the seller never mentioned it. My fault though as I should have checked better. I have another post in the R1 specific section on the temperature gauge as I was hoping to change the temp display on the dash to Def "C" but no joy yet.
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:24 pm
by Chuds1
NoExpert wrote:Looks fantastic! Braided lines are also on my list, but in terms of transforming the bike, those three things have made a huge difference. Maybe not power making difference, but feel, control and confidence difference.
As it’s a US bike the flash will get you more power by removing the throttle restrictions. Also, when you tear it apart next, remove the plenum and chop off the restrictor from it. I’d recommend doing this the same time you install a y-pipe and smog block off plates since you need to remove the plenum to get to the AIS system and spark plugs for that matter.
Thanks NoExpert, what do you mean by the "smog block off plates"
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:23 pm
by NoExpert
On the valve cover there’s an AIS setup that pumps air from the airbox into the exhaust gas to help burn off fuel before getting to the catalytic converter. When you ditch the catalytic converter you no longer need this system, it also screws with dyno AFR readings if you ever get it tuned. So you buy these plates that block off the openings left in the valve cover when you remove the AIS system. These are the Graves smog block off plates I have:
This is the portion of the plenum you chop off:
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:44 pm
by jompy
Chuds1 wrote:jompy wrote:
Your saying Chuds has a US bike ?
Yes its a US bike which I was a bit disappointed about. The bike never made it to the US though it was first registered in the UK. I never knew when I bought the bike as the seller never mentioned it. My fault though as I should have checked better. I have another post in the R1 specific section on the temperature gauge as I was hoping to change the temp display on the dash to Def "C" but no joy yet.
Shame you didn't know before hand but if your getting it flashed anyway and with a couple of mods like Josh says it won't matter .
I know with the 4xv you can change from kph to mph and the temp by changing resoldering one of the jumpers on the circuit board , I know because I bought a kph speedo by mistake
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:59 pm
by Chuds1
[quote="NoExpert"]On the valve cover there’s an AIS setup that pumps air from the airbox into the exhaust gas to help burn off fuel before getting to the catalytic converter. When you ditch the catalytic converter you no longer need this system, it also screws with dyno AFR readings if you ever get it tuned. So you buy these plates that block off the openings left in the valve cover when you remove the AIS system. These are the Graves smog block off plates I have:
Spot on thanks good to know when I come to take the decat off
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:01 pm
by Chuds1
Shame you didn't know before hand but if your getting it flashed anyway and with a couple of mods like Josh says it won't matter .
I know with the 4xv you can change from kph to mph and the temp by changing resoldering one of the jumpers on the circuit board , I know because I bought a kph speedo by mistake[/quote]
Yes you're right once I carry out a few mods it want matter. I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Thanks again for everyone's help.
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:30 am
by NoExpert
US throttle map limits:
This is a big reason to flash the ECU.
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:42 pm
by Chuds1
NoExpert wrote:US throttle map limits:
This is a big reason to flash the ECU.
Wow I can't make head nor tale of that
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:55 pm
by jompy
Chuds1 wrote:NoExpert wrote:US throttle map limits:
This is a big reason to flash the ECU.
Wow I can't make head nor tale of that
Glad it's not just me
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:35 pm
by R1Clarky
jompy wrote:Chuds1 wrote:NoExpert wrote:US throttle map limits:
This is a big reason to flash the ECU.
Wow I can't make head nor tale of that
Glad it's not just me
my guess would be- more blue/green = restricted power for gears/revs
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Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:56 am
by NoExpert
Go down to the 12000 RPM line then follow it right to where you get to 100% throttle. See how it’s no longer 100? They limit the throttle to 83.6 past 11500 RPMs and 88% throttle.
That’s what your ECU uses for throttle input. Vertical column is RPMs, horizontal is APS (accelerator position sensor or your right hand position). The values are the throttle position. So you can see that even if you whack it full throttle at say 3000 RPMs you’re not going to get 100% throttle till you hit 6500 RPMs.
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:57 am
by Chuds1
NoExpert wrote:Go down to the 12000 RPM line then follow it right to where you get to 100% throttle. See how it’s no longer 100? They limit the throttle to 83.6 past 11500 RPMs and 88% throttle.
That’s what your ECU uses for throttle input. Vertical column is RPMs, horizontal is APS (accelerator position sensor or your right hand position). The values are the throttle position. So you can see that even if you whack it full throttle at say 3000 RPMs you’re not going to get 100% throttle till you hit 6500 RPMs.
Haha easy when you know how. Makes sense now. Over the winter I'll look into getting the ecu reflashed.
Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:31 am
by Horus-222_R1
This is visual graphed results of speed tests on a 1000 R1s based on their colour. Fast to slow from left to right.
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Re: Hi Everyone.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:20 am
by Redjj
