Hi From Leicester
- jompy
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Re: Hi From Leicester
For me the main differences i look for to tell between a 4xv and 5jj are the plastic side panels on the tank art twice as big on the 4xv compared to the 5jj , the tail piece and back of the 4xv pillion seat are both flat where as the 5jj they both have a slight point to them and the clocks are subtly different .
Danf1 how do you mean theres less fixings on the 5jj disks ? do you mean the bobbins/floating rivits ?
Danf1 how do you mean theres less fixings on the 5jj disks ? do you mean the bobbins/floating rivits ?
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Re: Hi From Leicester
R1Clarky wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 am good luck mate- if you need someone to come & shake/nod their head at appropriate times/drink your tea, im just up the road in earl shilton [emoji16]
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I can help if you want someone to put a sticker on your swinging arm totally wonky
2012 & yellow - must be one of those anni's.
Re: Hi From Leicester
Horus-222_R1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:27 amR1Clarky wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 am good luck mate- if you need someone to come & shake/nod their head at appropriate times/drink your tea, im just up the road in earl shilton [emoji16]
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I can help if you want someone to put a sticker on your swinging arm totally wonky. You'll have to travel tho.




Re: Hi From Leicester
Told the wife I’m selling my 4xv as I’ve not used it in 10 years she said no your f@@@@@g not I love that bike!Rednine wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:04 am Another welcome from me, a 4XV owner second time around. My daughter never forgave me for selling the first one, it was certainly a sale I still very much regret. Anyway, I picked up a wreck of another one some 3 to 4 years ago which had been ridden 12 months of the year in all weathers. The good news was nothing had been stinted mechanically but physically it was a real heap. However loads of help and advice from the guys on this forum I now have a very respectable BLUE 4XV which I really enjoy. Off to Brands for the BSB tomorrow whatever the weather.Enjoy your new purchase, it looks as though you have got a bit of a real steal - long live a drop of alcoholic assistance.
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Re: Hi From Leicester
Garry... it took some skill to get that sticker on your swing arm looking like it does ..... it’s perfectly level when you pull a wheelie.... that takes skill mate [emoji3]Horus-222_R1 wrote:R1Clarky wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 am good luck mate- if you need someone to come & shake/nod their head at appropriate times/drink your tea, im just up the road in earl shilton [emoji16]
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I can help if you want someone to put a sticker on your swinging arm totally wonky [emoji1360]. You'll have to travel tho.
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Re: Hi From Leicester
5jj front discs have less fixings ?Danf1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:00 pm There are over 100 subtle differences in the 2 models but a couple of big ones the tail piece is flatter at the rear and pointed on a 5jj front discs have less fixings ,mirrors are chunky on the 4xv ,nose and lights different shape. The good news is the older ones are worth more right now. The bad news is it’s blue and they are much slower than the fast red/white ones ask Clarky he’s made the same mistake.![]()
Re: Hi From Leicester
No I might have got that wrong is it’s the 5pw they reduced the fixings on (are they called bobbins from disc to rotor they went from 10 to 8).jompy wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:26 pm5jj front discs have less fixings ?Danf1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:00 pm There are over 100 subtle differences in the 2 models but a couple of big ones the tail piece is flatter at the rear and pointed on a 5jj front discs have less fixings ,mirrors are chunky on the 4xv ,nose and lights different shape. The good news is the older ones are worth more right now. The bad news is it’s blue and they are much slower than the fast red/white ones ask Clarky he’s made the same mistake.![]()
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Re: Hi From Leicester
Only the 4xv discs have 10 rivets. The 5jj and 5 PW have 8.
"You don't get slower with age, you just get more cautious." Michael Rutter
1999 4xv in blue
1999 4xv in blue
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Re: Hi From Leicester
Danf1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:05 pmNo I might have got that wrong is it’s the 5pw they reduced the fixings on (are they called bobbins from disc to rotor they went from 10 to 8).jompy wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:26 pm5jj front discs have less fixings ?Danf1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:00 pm There are over 100 subtle differences in the 2 models but a couple of big ones the tail piece is flatter at the rear and pointed on a 5jj front discs have less fixings ,mirrors are chunky on the 4xv ,nose and lights different shape. The good news is the older ones are worth more right now. The bad news is it’s blue and they are much slower than the fast red/white ones ask Clarky he’s made the same mistake.![]()
Cheers guys , I've never noticed before

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Re: Hi From Leicester
I only noticed after I started looking for a set on eBay.jompy wrote:Danf1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:05 pmNo I might have got that wrong is it’s the 5pw they reduced the fixings on (are they called bobbins from disc to rotor they went from 10 to 8).jompy wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:26 pm5jj front discs have less fixings ?Danf1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:00 pm There are over 100 subtle differences in the 2 models but a couple of big ones the tail piece is flatter at the rear and pointed on a 5jj front discs have less fixings ,mirrors are chunky on the 4xv ,nose and lights different shape. The good news is the older ones are worth more right now. The bad news is it’s blue and they are much slower than the fast red/white ones ask Clarky he’s made the same mistake.[emoji6]Cheers guys , I've never noticed before
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Re: Hi From Leicester
I remember Yamaha PR claiming loads of upgrades from 4xv to 5jj initially it was 250 I think, but when Some keen eyed Jurno pointed out Yamaha was counting every cosmetic change 2 mirrors, all fairing panels, 4 indicators, 2 heel plates, jompys favourite jet upgrade counted as 4!! I think they toned it down a bitMoise wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:28 amI only noticed after I started looking for a set on eBay.jompy wrote:Danf1 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:05 pmNo I might have got that wrong is it’s the 5pw they reduced the fixings on (are they called bobbins from disc to rotor they went from 10 to 8).jompy wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:26 pm5jj front discs have less fixings ?Danf1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:00 pm There are over 100 subtle differences in the 2 models but a couple of big ones the tail piece is flatter at the rear and pointed on a 5jj front discs have less fixings ,mirrors are chunky on the 4xv ,nose and lights different shape. The good news is the older ones are worth more right now. The bad news is it’s blue and they are much slower than the fast red/white ones ask Clarky he’s made the same mistake.[emoji6]Cheers guys , I've never noticed before
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Re: Hi From Leicester
oh and once she's had a thorough going over & your happy you'll need one of these
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Re: Hi From Leicester
Who showed you how to put that on pissed Clarky?
2012 & yellow - must be one of those anni's.
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its perfectly straight [emoji4] optical illusion mate [emoji6]Horus-222_R1 wrote:Who showed you how to put that on pissed Clarky?
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Re: Hi From Leicester
Ignore him Clarky he’s just trying to deflect attention from his own piss poor attempt.R1Clarky wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:23 pmits perfectly straight [emoji4] optical illusion mate [emoji6]Horus-222_R1 wrote:Who showed you how to put that on pissed Clarky?
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Like I said. Parallel to the planet and very eye catching.Danf1 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:26 pmIgnore him Clarky he’s just trying to deflect attention from his own piss poor attempt.R1Clarky wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:23 pmits perfectly straight [emoji4] optical illusion mate [emoji6]Horus-222_R1 wrote:Who showed you how to put that on pissed Clarky?
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2012 & yellow - must be one of those anni's.
Re: Hi From Leicester
You may regret that offer Mr ClarkR1Clarky wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 am good luck mate- if you need someone to come & shake/nod their head at appropriate times/drink your tea, im just up the road in earl shilton [emoji16]
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I'm starting to build a real list of jobs that need doing which I wont list here I'll start a new thread on the projects page.
Really appreciate the welcome once again, I hope your all a patient bunch my list of questions will be long and potentially spasmodic, the wife wants me to use my time doing stuff to the house and not the bikes.
