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Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:31 pm
by chris__p
Thanks, I missed out the 400 phase and went straight to 600's and 1000's, kind of trying to fill that gap. Do like the old 400's from the era.

Don't know if it's just in my head but the front felt a bit funny at times, got home today and noticed this

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Goes all the way around and there is a step in height, power pures with a fair amount of life on the front. Guessing this could be the cause

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:31 pm
by Scrapman
Looks totally dried out. What's the history of it ?

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:10 pm
by chris__p
Scrapman wrote:Looks totally dried out. What's the history of it ?
Just looked up the history, 3 years since they were fitted, might look worse on the middle due to being on a dusty surface, don't know how many miles they've done but it'll be around 3k max

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:44 pm
by sandilands1984
New pair of boots needed then, will make all the difference. I almost sold my original R1 due to awful handling on its original Dunlops, stuck a new pair or Michelins on and transformed the bike! :-)

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:18 pm
by chris__p
Anyone use the Avon vp2 sports or super sports?

Reading lots of reviews on tyres and these seem like they are pretty good for the cash, don't think I'll get the power pures again

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:36 pm
by Luke03R1
chris__p wrote:Anyone use the Avon vp2 sports or super sports?

Reading lots of reviews on tyres and these seem like they are pretty good for the cash, don't think I'll get the power pures again
I dont know anyone who uses Avon I get offered them at my local Tyre gaff and they are cheep but I think the premium brands will adorn my R1 for now nit saying they aint good mind

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:51 pm
by chris__p
Is there a general opinion about what works on the early R1's on this forum?

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:04 pm
by Luke03R1
From what i've read the most common tyre is the michelin pilot power 2ct, I and others on the pirelli corsa, a few on here using the dunlop sportsmart to name a few over the range of R1's not sure about 4xv specifically

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:16 am
by sandilands1984
I've personally always stuck with the Michelin Pilot Power 2CT, since changing over from Dunlops - which handled like poo! I find the Michelins to be nice and sticky, and tip in pretty quickly. I've not tried the newer Pilot Pure, but not heard as good reports. I think it's just a case of finding what works best for your riding style really

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:48 pm
by 2002r1jon
Luke03R1 wrote: not sure about 4xv specifically
Slicks? :D

On mine(track only) i have used Dragon Supercorsa`s(unavailable now)they were great :D ,now im running a Diablo supercorsa front(SC01) and a Michelin Power race on the rear(Medium),only rode it round Oulton with this combo on one cold Febuary day,but they felt fine,cant wait to get some real heat into them and try them out with a bit of passion :D

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:58 pm
by 2002r1jon
You could do alot worse than trying these ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIRELLI-SUPER ... 2c71a217ac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:09 pm
by chris__p
2002r1jon wrote:You could do alot worse than trying these ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIRELLI-SUPER ... 2c71a217ac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Will the 180 rear fit ok? Thought it was a 190/50 on the back

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:28 pm
by 2002r1jon
chris__p wrote:
2002r1jon wrote:You could do alot worse than trying these ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIRELLI-SUPER ... 2c71a217ac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Will the 180 rear fit ok? Thought it was a 190/50 on the back
I run a 180/55 rear on my 4XV ;)

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:19 pm
by sandilands1984
Why would you put a 180 section tyre on to a 6J rim? You'll be stretching the tyre wider than it naturally wants to go, and surely make the bike tip in slower? Pirelli Supercorsas are brilliant track day tyres mind, I stuck a pair on a Gixa 600 track bike last year and had loads of fun on it! Very soft though, so wear out quickly...and not the most sensible tyre to have in the wet, with the fact only 2/3 of the tyre has tread? :-S lol

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:31 pm
by 2002r1jon
Not running a 55 it wont :D

Looking at it,compared to the 190/50 on my 5PW it has steeper profile,giving a quicker turn in,and more surface area while banked over ;) ,but then i do run them a fair bit lower psi than my road tyres

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:03 am
by jompy
Welcome in Chris , you'll love the 4xv but you defiantly need to get rid of those pures , cheep & good are pilot power's but if you read through the forum everyone's got they're own fav tyre & theres alot of chice

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:40 am
by chris__p
jompy wrote:Welcome in Chris , you'll love the 4xv but you defiantly need to get rid of those pures , cheep & good are pilot power's but if you read through the forum everyone's got they're own fav tyre & theres alot of chice
Thanks Jompy, it does seem that way, much easier on the nc30 due to the limited choice with the 18" rear.
Found the pilot powers for £150 a set without fitting, same as the Avons, come payday I'll make the decision

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:18 pm
by jompy
i'm on my second pilot power rear & i'm getting on just dandy with them , had S20's on before that , you see them on m&p's by any chance ?
got my new rear for £88 delivered

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:21 pm
by pod
Had pures and struggled but power 3s been sooo much better. Will go onto something with a little more longentivity for the winter mind

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Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:34 pm
by chris__p
jompy wrote:i'm on my second pilot power rear & i'm getting on just dandy with them , had S20's on before that , you see them on m&p's by any chance ?
got my new rear for £88 delivered
It was actually bct if I remember right, offering pretty much the same deal. Think these might be the choice now or the 2ct powers. As its purely a toy for sunny days don't know if its worth the extra cash over the normal powers

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:45 pm
by Luke03R1
chris__p wrote:
jompy wrote:i'm on my second pilot power rear & i'm getting on just dandy with them , had S20's on before that , you see them on m&p's by any chance ?
got my new rear for £88 delivered
It was actually bct if I remember right, offering pretty much the same deal. Think these might be the choice now or the 2ct powers. As its purely a toy for sunny days don't know if its worth the extra cash over the normal powers
Depends on how quick you ride really

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:29 pm
by sandilands1984
Depends how much grip you want round the bends mate, stating the obvious but '2CT' stands for 2 compound technology, which basically gives you softer compound on the edges of the tyre and slightly harder in the centre...ideal for someone who wants to take bends a bit quick but not kill the centre after 5 hard accelerating straights! Lotsa fun ;-)

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:24 am
by chris__p
sandilands1984 wrote:Depends how much grip you want round the bends mate, stating the obvious but '2CT' stands for 2 compound technology, which basically gives you softer compound on the edges of the tyre and slightly harder in the centre...ideal for someone who wants to take bends a bit quick but not kill the centre after 5 hard accelerating straights! Lotsa fun ;-)
Fair enough, assumed the normal one was soft all the way round and the 2ct just had the medium compound in the middle for longer life if straight lining it.
In all honesty I'm not a quick rider, I would like to improve though

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:23 pm
by jompy
sandilands1984 wrote:Depends how much grip you want round the bends mate, stating the obvious but '2CT' stands for 2 compound technology, which basically gives you softer compound on the edges of the tyre and slightly harder in the centre...ideal for someone who wants to take bends a bit quick but not kill the centre after 5 hard accelerating straights! Lotsa fun ;-)
not far off , yes a 2ct has softer sides (shoulders) but has standard in the middle so unless your giving it the berries crancked over in bends the you may as well go with the cheeper pilot power but if you do have it "on the edge" alot then the 2ct's , to be fair it's all about confidence , i guess i'm your average rider & love to have a play from time to time but i didn't notice much if any between the S20 hypersport's tyre & the pilot power , the pilot power has plenty of grip for me but then that's me & everyone's different . There's some bloody good tyre's out there these days but for me there's £100's difference in price but i don't find £100's worth of extra grip .

tbh i'd like to hear everyone's view's on this because i believe we're all different

Re: Possibly a new R1 owner

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:41 pm
by chris__p
jompy wrote:
sandilands1984 wrote:Depends how much grip you want round the bends mate, stating the obvious but '2CT' stands for 2 compound technology, which basically gives you softer compound on the edges of the tyre and slightly harder in the centre...ideal for someone who wants to take bends a bit quick but not kill the centre after 5 hard accelerating straights! Lotsa fun ;-)
not far off , yes a 2ct has softer sides (shoulders) but has standard in the middle so unless your giving it the berries crancked over in bends the you may as well go with the cheeper pilot power but if you do have it "on the edge" alot then the 2ct's , to be fair it's all about confidence , i guess i'm your average rider & love to have a play from time to time but i didn't notice much if any between the S20 hypersport's tyre & the pilot power , the pilot power has plenty of grip for me but then that's me & everyone's different . There's some bloody good tyre's out there these days but for me there's £100's difference in price but i don't find £100's worth of extra grip .

tbh i'd like to hear everyone's view's on this because i believe we're all different
This was my thinking, I'm far from being able to use the tyres to there full potential so would pilot powers be ok till I got more confident on it. Like the 51 degree lean angles they mention, that's not going to happen