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spark plug socket
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:18 am
by bob_rich
Hi
back in June I posted an alternator problems my sone was having on his 52 reg R6. this problem is currently held because the engine developed misfire that we traced to one of the coil on plug assembly. AS the bike is stripped down quite a bit it seem sensible to change the plugs while we have access to them. Can Someone please advise or confirm the required socket to get the plugs out so I can get the correct one on order?
once this is fixed we will get back on with the alternator problem!!
thanks in advance
Bob
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:42 pm
by jompy
Sorry bud I haven't got a clue but hopefully someone will know , what model R6 is it again ?
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:53 pm
by Moise
5/8. I'd suggest getting one with a magnet to hold the plug, not rubber.
I don't know what access is like on your R6, but a couple of different length extensions and a flexible joint help on the 4xv.
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:15 pm
by polar
Access is quite tight on the R6, i use a normal 5/8" plug socket and a telescopic magnet - makes things easy.
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:24 am
by Moise
polar wrote:Access is quite tight on the R6, i use a normal 5/8" plug socket and a telescopic magnet - makes things easy.
I used a normal socket until 5 years ago when most of my tools were stolen. The replacement socket sets came with magnetic plug sockets, and they have proved to be almost perfect. Spark plugs never fall out, and the sockets are thin wall and easily fit down the plug tube.
I'm a convert!
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:12 am
by polar
Moise wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:24 am
polar wrote:Access is quite tight on the R6, i use a normal 5/8" plug socket and a telescopic magnet - makes things easy.
I used a normal socket until 5 years ago when most of my tools were stolen. The replacement socket sets came with magnetic plug sockets, and the they have proved to be almost perfect. Spark plugs never fall out, and the sockets are thin wall and easily fit down the plug tube.
I'm a convert!
Ill have a look if snap on do one as most of my snap on stuff is 40 years old now and the rubber is well worn on my plug socket but ive managed
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:52 am
by bob_rich
Hi All
Thanks for all the replies have ordered a magnetic socket that most think are the best and a selection of extension bars
Will see how we get on
cheers
Bob
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:18 pm
by bob_rich
Hi Again
well we installed new plugs and got the machine back together. The magnetic plug socket was the ideal tool so that bit of advice was spot on. With an external battery it started with some difficulty but certainly ran but very roughly. The new plugs were champion 8654 they looked different only a single earth electrode rather than two of the NGK plugs removed( removed plugs looked not too bad--just bit sooty). I was wondering if removing and looking down the carb air intakes might give a clue ( if it is a fuel problem) and as the bike has been stood for a long time could it be the fuel has gone "stale" ? any suggestions would be welcome would be welcome
cheers
Bob
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:21 pm
by Moise
It would certainly be worth trying fresh fuel if it's more than a couple of months old.
spark plug socket
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:35 pm
by newsh
Most fuel nowadays has a percentage of Bio Ethanol which turns to brown sludge in the fuel system if left too long. I suggest at least changing or cleaning any fuel filters, drain the carbs (if it has them although I gues this bike is fuel injected)
Fill with fresh fuel with a good strong dose of fuel treatment.
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:06 am
by polar
Im with Moise and Newsh - fresh fuel first with Millers fuel treatment in x3 dosage.
If that doesn't sort it clean the tank and carbs out. If injection remove the injector rail and clean the injectors the best you can.
Im not a huge fan of Champion plugs i would have gone for NGK
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:58 pm
by jompy
polar wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:06 am
Im with Moise and Newsh - fresh fuel first with Millers fuel treatment in x3 dosage.
If that doesn't sort it clean the tank and carbs out. If injection remove the injector rail and clean the injectors the best you can.
Im not a huge fan of Champion plugs i would have gone for NGK
+1
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:59 pm
by Moise
polar wrote:
Im not a huge fan of Champion plugs i would have gone for NGK
I didn't even realise they still made them!
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Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:22 pm
by polar
Moise wrote:polar wrote:
Im not a huge fan of Champion plugs i would have gone for NGK
I didn't even realise they still made them!
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Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 pm
by Moise
Sorry mate, that was my sense of humour again! But seriously, I can't remember when I last saw Champion plugs for sale in NZ.
I have Iridiums in the 4xv, very happy with them.
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Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:05 am
by polar
Moise wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 pm
Sorry mate, that was my sense of humour again! But seriously, I can't remember when I last saw Champion plugs for sale in NZ.
I have Iridiums in the 4xv, very happy with them.
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Got you
When you said it i thought "what they dont have NGK in NZ!"
Yea Champion are for lawn mowers and misfires on anything bigger
NGK are imo the best plug you can get, there was also Nippon Denso when i was young that were a good plug but i havent seen them in the UK for a while.
Re: spark plug socket
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:35 am
by Moise
polar wrote:Moise wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 pm
Sorry mate, that was my sense of humour again! But seriously, I can't remember when I last saw Champion plugs for sale in NZ.
I have Iridiums in the 4xv, very happy with them.
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Got you [emoji38]
When you said it i thought "what they dont have NGK in NZ!" [emoji38]
Yea Champion are for lawn mowers and misfires on anything bigger [emoji38]
NGK are imo the best plug you can get, there was also Nippon Denso when i was young that were a good plug but i havent seen them in the UK for a while.
Champion plugs were especially useless in 2 strokes. NGK plugs were 3 times the price, but at least they lasted months instead of weeks.
I've heard Nippon Denso plugs are even better than NGK but have never tried them.
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