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Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:08 am
by hyperlite1972
Word up people, newbie here!!
Looking at a new purchase soon, not sure what year R1 to go for, I'd love a big bang but funds won't stretch that far?
I currently have a 5JJ
Thanks
Steve
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:10 am
by hyperlite1972
Sorry, It's all new to me...
I'm from Nottingham, keen for ride outs if there's any local people on here....
Been riding since i was 5, motox, trials, trails & hare and hound events..
Got a R1 5jj & an XR600R
I know it's all about taste, 07 or 08 ? is the extra heat from the under seat pipes that bad?
Thanks
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:12 am
by hyperlite1972
Thanks hash29

Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:28 am
by jompy
Welcome in Steven
Why get rid of the 5jj it's a cracking bike ? Best bet would be to take a test ride on the other R1 models but first have a read up on them in the relevant sections .
XR600 ! Nice , do you green lane ? If you do you'll get on well with 2002r1jon from belper he has an XR400 , Alex_h also does a bit of green landing .
I've got a CRM250 but it s been in my garage for a number of years & needs money spending on it .
Give us a bit about your biking history & get some pics up of your bikes past & present .
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:36 am
by Steve R1
Hi Steve and welcome to the forum. The under seat pipes are not really a problem, though I would advise on ditching the cat as that does get very hot and can be uncomfortable on hot days, great in the winter though .
As Jompy says have a good look around and test tie some before you buy.....
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:39 am
by Moise
Welcome. I've just bought a 4xv, never had so much fun on a bike! Newer R1s would be better on a track but for street riding the carbed ones are a blast.
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:48 am
by LOCKE
Welcome in mate. Enjoy the forum.
Colin
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:12 pm
by PJC
Welcome in Steven, enjoy the site.
Bike wise the 4c8 is a great bike but as standard is a bit lacking in low end power, the throttle is restricted via the ecu in the first 3 gears. Heat from the cat is a proper right leg pain, underseat pipes are fine. To get the best out of it you need to ride her in the upper rev range. All of these built in Yam issues can be resolved and if you look or ask Bub, Damo666 or me to name a few we can help if needed. Should you ride in a restrained manor then just setting up the sussies correctly will be enough.
There are a few things to look out for
Crash damage, look hard for marks where the peg plate has snapped and touched the swing arm
Possible warped disks or seized buttons common issue
TPS issues
Not much else though.
Best advise buy a high spec bike, ride it like a 600 and enjoy
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:22 pm
by hyperlite1972
Brilliant, thanks people for all your responses.
I do love the 5jj & I don't mind the violent head shaking as it keeps you on your toes!! but just feel it's a little dated. I'll take your advice and test ride a few models, I'm thinking a 2008 model or maybe stretch and get a big bang.
Yes I do green lane all over the Viking way, Breckon Beacons and Yorkshire although the XR has taken a back seat since getting the R1 in Match last year, it was a minter with 9k on the clock, it's already got 17k now and I've loved every mile too

I've had the XR from new in 1995...
Can anyone tell me how I add photos off my I-phone please?
Thanks
Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:38 pm
by Moise
Install the Photobucket app, then you can upload the photos to their website. There's a sticky in Forum Rules etc on how to add photos to a post using Photobucket.
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:52 pm
by hyperlite1972
Thanks Moise
I've added two photos but can't find them!!
Oh dear.....
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:59 pm
by hyperlite1972
Found them in gallery!!
I really am a 'newbie'
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:08 am
by Bub
Hi mate and welcome to the forum, i think the 5JJ is an ace looking bike, wouldn't mind adding one to my collection
As PJC said the 4C8 is an ace looking machine, i love mine, thought about selling it a few times but i just can't do it lol i got mine bog standard and the the first thing i done was to ditch the cat, the heat that comes off of those is shocking.
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:57 am
by hyperlite1972
Hi Bub,
Thanks mate, it's all a bit new to me, as I've never been on forums before, so a true virgin
I think the 4C8 is really nice, yours looks lush. I didn't realise that most of the heat comes off the cat, so thanks for the advise.
I'll keep everyone updated on my purchase news and test rides too
Have you had a go on a big bang, is the lower end punch that good? do I just search big bang for all the associated news and advice etc?
Thanks for your help
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:11 am
by jompy
hyperlite1972 wrote:Hi Bub,
Thanks mate, it's all a bit new to me, as I've never been on forums before, so a true virgin
I think the 4C8 is really nice, yours looks lush. I didn't realise that most of the heat comes off the cat, so thanks for the advise.
I'll keep everyone updated on my purchase news and test rides too
Have you had a go on a big bang, is the lower end punch that good? do I just search big bang for all the associated news and advice etc?
Thanks for your help
Just pop along to the 14b section of the forum & have a read
Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:47 am
by Bub
Ridden a BB around a car park, that was enough for me to decide I'd keep the 4C8 lol
My bike looks like this at the moment, still got the galfers, Gilles rearsets and a couple of carbon bits too
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Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:52 pm
by Siamblue
Hi mate and welcome, if you want a nice fast model and great handling bike, it has to be the 5VY SP then you get the best of both worlds and if you are a wheelie freak you won't run the white bearings dry because of oil startvation
Otherwise buy a cheap 5VY for £3500 and mod it to your liking..
regards Gary
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:56 pm
by PJC
And here is mine all done up and just before I dis-assembled it in Scotland

Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:57 pm
by hyperlite1972
Both look like absolute weapons

Seriously Bub, how come you didn't like it then?
I do love my 2nd gear wheelies, doesn't every R1 owner?!! do you come across many 5VY SP's though, they must be like trying to find a 30 year old, rich, single & beautiful virgin who gets mega turned on by 'old' men?!
have you pranged it then PJC?
Thanks LOCKE & Moise nice one...I defo think a test ride on a 2005 onwards bike is in order before I get rid of mine.
Jompy.... the old CRM's are top enduro bikes, i used to ride years ago with the Leisure Trail UK boys before they got into KTM's through the TRF in Melton, you need to get her back up and running
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:29 pm
by hyperlite1972
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:39 pm
by hyperlite1972
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:00 am
by PJC
Have a look in crash test dummies

I have the odd entry, if you re-read my first post you will get to why Bub was a bit disappointed.
oh the 4c8 is a better bike than the SP once you spend a bit on sussy's. Its all to do with the 16v mota The US spec SP in KR colours looks real nice
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:06 am
by Bub
IMO the 4C8 is a much better looking bike
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:37 am
by jompy
hyperlite1972 wrote:Both look like absolute weapons

Seriously Bub, how come you didn't like it then?
I do love my 2nd gear wheelies, doesn't every R1 owner?!! do you come across many 5VY SP's though, they must be like trying to find a 30 year old, rich, single & beautiful virgin who gets mega turned on by 'old' men?!
have you pranged it then PJC?
Thanks LOCKE & Moise nice one...I defo think a test ride on a 2005 onwards bike is in order before I get rid of mine.
Jompy.... the old CRM's are top enduro bikes, i used to ride years ago with the Leisure Trail UK boys before they got into KTM's through the TRF in Melton, you need to get her back up and running
Errrr I think you'll find he's pranged it more than once , in fact he's just ahead of scrapman in the crashing front ! Contrary to popular belief scrapman is not called scrapman because of his family ties to the scrap trade it's because he's very good at turning yamaha's finest into scrap in fact he's nearly as godders as PJC at it
Yep i love the CRM & remember feeling very comfortable green laning on it , I bought a CRM because of the reviews on it in TBM , I live about 10 miles from Okleys yard & leisure trail
Re: Newbie alert!!
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:23 am
by PJC
Point of order
PJC
2 x crashes both on same bike and rebuilt with lots of forum assistance for the second one
Scrapman
2 x crashes (that he has admitted too) both 14b's and both reduced to component parts although they were modified somewhat
Jompy
1 ticket for wheeling past a coppa
1 destroyed R1 moto, general abuse most likely caused by WHEELIES
1 knackered CRM
1 Seen better days KTM pile of
Did I miss anything
