first bikes - why not an R1

[hash29]

if you go for the sv600 and get to grips with it on track and want more fun you can find most race clubs have a series for the svtwins .

i just hope you get a bike the fits and one you can enjoy and progress on.

good luck mike

[Steve R1]

As for what's good on track... It's who's good not what they're riding!

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Very true Luke, the R1 might be good but it's let down by its rider... Me that is

[masho46]

You mention your wife liking the gixxer well if your intending on taking pillions on the back then the gixxer is far better than the r1 for pillions that is.I know this because that is what I had before the R1 and my misses has sold her gear now because she didn't like pillion on the r1.Method in the madness me thinks so if you don't want pillions get the Yam.

[Beefy5pw]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,


the thing got walloped the 15 mile home , and saw 155mph within 15 minuites of leaving the buyers house ,

not big n clever but end of the day if your a grown man you should be able to manage a throttle I wanted to know how aggressive it was ,
all this talk of catching you out and flipping at the slightest whiff of throttle is bollocks, my injected bike is very tractable and a doddle on the gas ,

my attitude was , it my hard earned cash whats the point on buying a bike you don't want, only to be bored of it in 3 months , to then loose money on the resale when you be better off just getting what you want ,

don't get me wrong im no mick doohan , and the bike still far better than my skill set , but its all about progression , your confidence will build with every mile and you will want to do more miles on a bike you want to ride !!


my two pennth

[jompy]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,


the thing got walloped the 15 mile home , and saw 155mph within 15 minuites of leaving the buyers house ,

not big n clever but end of the day if your a grown man you should be able to manage a throttle I wanted to know how aggressive it was ,
all this talk of catching you out and flipping at the slightest whiff of throttle is bollocks, my injected bike is very tractable and a doddle on the gas ,

my attitude was , it my hard earned cash whats the point on buying a bike you don't want, only to be bored of it in 3 months , to then loose money on the resale when you be better off just getting what you want ,

don't get me wrong im no mick doohan , and the bike still far better than my skill set , but its all about progression , your confidence will build with every mile and you will want to do more miles on a bike you want to ride !!


my two pennth

Had you ridden off road bikes before you passed your test ?

[Luke03R1]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,


the thing got walloped the 15 mile home , and saw 155mph within 15 minuites of leaving the buyers house ,

not big n clever but end of the day if your a grown man you should be able to manage a throttle I wanted to know how aggressive it was ,
all this talk of catching you out and flipping at the slightest whiff of throttle is bollocks, my injected bike is very tractable and a doddle on the gas ,

my attitude was , it my hard earned cash whats the point on buying a bike you don't want, only to be bored of it in 3 months , to then loose money on the resale when you be better off just getting what you want ,

don't get me wrong im no mick doohan , and the bike still far better than my skill set , but its all about progression , your confidence will build with every mile and you will want to do more miles on a bike you want to ride !!


my two pennth

Had you ridden off road bikes before you passed your test ?

not sure I'd call all the previous advice bollocks either it is as said advise from experienced R1 owners to a chap with only riding school experience cant remember reading any mention of flipping The R1 in his price range is also NOT the super smooth 5PW .........
If you had read the thread you would have found most of the advise was progression from a smaller less powerful bike would give him the tools to be a better rider trying to find the limits of the R1 is indeed challenging but as you said he like yourself would be able to "Wallop" it in a straight line

[pod]

Love the sarcasm luke lol

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[stug]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,

You say you jumped straight on an R1 3 days after passing your test but also say you have had couple of 600's, were these before you passed your test?
Maybe you ran around on 600's before passing your test giving you a bit of experience on a bike before getting to grips with the R1, its a bit different to jumping straight on one from a learner bike.

[Beefy5pw]

Yes I'd ridden off road and 600s before passing my test ,

And regards walloping it home I merely mean I gave it some beans thru the gears as I wanted to see what the acceleration was like ,

Don't we all put your foot down when test driving a new car ??

At no point did i say All the previous advice was bollocks.

End of the day he's a grown man ... I for one wouldn't be asking what bike I should buy with my hard earned, go to a dealer , take a test ride & if you come back shaking like a shitting dog It may not be for you ....



Seen high mile 5pws go for £2k so what's his budget ?????

Threads like this a no win situation with advice as everyone will have there own advice



Just buy the bike you want to ride ..

Bri

[Beefy5pw]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,

You say you jumped straight on an R1 3 days after passing your test but also say you have had couple of 600's, were these before you passed your test?
Maybe you ran around on 600's before passing your test giving you a bit of experience on a bike before getting to grips with the R1, its a bit different to jumping straight on one from a learner bike.

As I clearly wrote first bike I got after passing my test was an r1

I didn't say this was the first bike I've ever ridden ? More that I went and purchased the bike I wanted

[Luke03R1]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,

You say you jumped straight on an R1 3 days after passing your test but also say you have had couple of 600's, were these before you passed your test?
Maybe you ran around on 600's before passing your test giving you a bit of experience on a bike before getting to grips with the R1, its a bit different to jumping straight on one from a learner bike.

As I clearly wrote first bike I got after passing my test was an r1

I didn't say this was the first bike I've ever ridden ? More that I went and purchased the bike I wanted

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo IF this was the first bike you had ridden apart from a few lessons would it be the ideal first bike? In your opinion (not just to pose on but to ride and learn to ride well)

[Beefy5pw]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,

You say you jumped straight on an R1 3 days after passing your test but also say you have had couple of 600's, were these before you passed your test?
Maybe you ran around on 600's before passing your test giving you a bit of experience on a bike before getting to grips with the R1, its a bit different to jumping straight on one from a learner bike.

As I clearly wrote first bike I got after passing my test was an r1

I didn't say this was the first bike I've ever ridden ? More that I went and purchased the bike I wanted

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo IF this was the first bike you had ridden apart from a few lessons would it be the ideal first bike? In your opinion (not just to pose on but to ride and learn to ride well)

Again Luke I think it boils down to confidence in yourself

Any bike with 130 + bhp is probably not the best choice , but he's as much chance of binning a 600 if hes going to ride around ham fisted ?....

As stated a 600 probably a safer option, but for me you got to buy the bike that makes you want to get out n ride , confidence only comes from seat time ...

I wish him all the best and safe riding whatever he decides

[Petroladdict]

When I took my test at the age of 32 after only riding a couple of 125's and a 250 when I was a kid. I really wanted an R6 so I bought a 2006 2CO, some people said it would put me in a box others told me to treat it with respect otherwise i'd find myself in trouble. Yes it was a lot sharper than the er6 and the bandit that I'd been riding on my direct access course but that was exactly what i wanted from it. I won't lie and say i was completely comfortable on it straight away, it was one quick little revtastic bike that just wanted to be caned everywhere to get the best out of it. After doing over 15k miles in my first year on it I started thinking of what was next ? I stuck with the R6 for a few more months as people were telling me the same again about the R1 Sooooo long story short I sold the R6 on a thursday and on the saturday morning bought a 2008 R1.
It is a very different animal and has with time become a bike I now feel comfortable riding at pace and in all conditions, HOWEVER If i had gone out and bought the R1 before buying something a bit smaller to work up from then I reckon i'd not have the confidence to throw the R1 around as much as i now do. It's all well and good saying that you'll learn whatever you ride but that is just not going to work out as well as starting off with something manageable.

But what the fcuk do i know ?

[jompy]

Yes I'd ridden off road and 600s before passing my test ,

And regards walloping it home I merely mean I gave it some beans thru the gears as I wanted to see what the acceleration was like ,

Don't we all put your foot down when test driving a new car ??

At no point did i say All the previous advice was bollocks.

End of the day he's a grown man ... I for one wouldn't be asking what bike I should buy with my hard earned, go to a dealer , take a test ride & if you come back shaking like a shitting dog It may not be for you ....



Seen high mile 5pws go for £2k so what's his budget ?????

Threads like this a no win situation with advice as everyone will have there own advice



Just buy the bike you want to ride ..

Bri

Not having a go Bri but you do have previous bike experience then & from experience off road is some of the best experience , look at Chris walker just for example ! With off road / mx you learn a hell of a lot about throttle control , balance & control so it's not really the same as someone having only ever passed they're CBT & then jumping on an R1 !

[Beefy5pw]

I not having a pop either jompy , it's nice to see a forum
That thinks about individuals

I'd say the off road and trail riding probably stood me better than using my old mans 600

If the bike squirms or spins the rear it didn't faze me

I'd very much recommend a cheap moto x bike and a loacal farmers field


Once you get that throttle control in it will greatly improve riding

[jompy]

I not having a pop either jompy , it's nice to see a forum
That thinks about individuals

I'd say the off road and trail riding probably stood me better than using my old mans 600

If the bike squirms or spins the rear it didn't faze me

I'd very much recommend a cheap moto x bike and a loacal farmers field


Once you get that throttle control in it will greatly improve riding

I was going to make a comment about him trying green laning as I found it really did help my confidence and my bike control but green laning isn't cheep .
Common sense to me says get a trail bike bike & green lane for a couple of years it'll give him a different perspective on biking but that's not what he wants & it's his life .
Good idea about the cheep off road bike btw

[stug]

ill be honest here , didn't read every post but caught the genral consensus

my first bike after getting my licence in 2012 was a 5pw r1 , 3 days after pasing to be exact ,

ive experience on off road bikes , and a Cpl 600s ,

You say you jumped straight on an R1 3 days after passing your test but also say you have had couple of 600's, were these before you passed your test?
Maybe you ran around on 600's before passing your test giving you a bit of experience on a bike before getting to grips with the R1, its a bit different to jumping straight on one from a learner bike.

As I clearly wrote first bike I got after passing my test was an r1

I didn't say this was the first bike I've ever ridden ? More that I went and purchased the bike I wanted

Well that was exactly my point, you had experience before jumping on an R1 whereas the OP at the moment has not.
Not sure if any dealer will give a test ride on an R1 to someone who has just passed their test though, so maybe not able to try before you buy.

[2002r1jon]

but green laning isn't cheep .

Green Laning aint cheap??.............................oh Bollox

BTW Jompster,its spelt "CHEAP",Tweety Pie went "CHEEP"

[jompy]

but green laning isn't cheep .

Green Laning aint cheap??.............................oh Bollox

BTW Jompster,its spelt "CHEAP",Tweety Pie went "CHEEP"

It wasn't when I was doing it or was that the fact that I was skint & kept rebuilding the engine lol


Thanks for another spelling lesson dad

[blazehops]

Some great advice on here guys, I'd thought i'd throw my opinion in the mix. Basically i think that its down to the individual, some people pick things up better than others. It's all in the wrist, its all in the wrist(happy gilmore stylie). If the linkage between your brain and wrist is good then all should be good, however, if its not then you'll be spending more time thinking about the throttle on a ride than observing your surroundings, getting the right lines and just enjoying yourself. My first bike was a 07 zx6r, after a taxi driver wrote that off i was given a bandit to cruise about on. I loved it, it was a different ride experience. I'm sure i've become a smoother rider for it. Do i wish i had a bandit to start on? tbh No. Do i wish i got a litre bike instead of 600. No. i enjoyed flicking through the gears and thought it would improve my riding.

[PJC]

Some great advice on here guys, I'd thought i'd throw my opinion in the mix. Basically i think that its down to the individual, some people pick things up better than others. It's all in the wrist, its all in the wrist(happy gilmore stylie). If the linkage between your brain and wrist is good then all should be good, however, if its not then you'll be spending more time thinking about the throttle on a ride than observing your surroundings, getting the right lines and just enjoying yourself. My first bike was a 07 zx6r, after a taxi driver wrote that off i was given a bandit to cruise about on. I loved it, it was a different ride experience. I'm sure i've become a smoother rider for it. Do i wish i had a bandit to start on? tbh No. Do i wish i got a litre bike instead of 600. No. i enjoyed flicking through the gears and thought it would improve my riding.

That's got to be the longest anyone has joined before posting their first post.

Don't suppose you fancy starting your own newbie thread do ya.

[blazehops]

Some great advice on here guys, I'd thought i'd throw my opinion in the mix. Basically i think that its down to the individual, some people pick things up better than others. It's all in the wrist, its all in the wrist(happy gilmore stylie). If the linkage between your brain and wrist is good then all should be good, however, if its not then you'll be spending more time thinking about the throttle on a ride than observing your surroundings, getting the right lines and just enjoying yourself. My first bike was a 07 zx6r, after a taxi driver wrote that off i was given a bandit to cruise about on. I loved it, it was a different ride experience. I'm sure i've become a smoother rider for it. Do i wish i had a bandit to start on? tbh No. Do i wish i got a litre bike instead of 600. No. i enjoyed flicking through the gears and thought it would improve my riding.

That's got to be the longest anyone has joined before posting their first post.

Don't suppose you fancy starting your own newbie thread do ya.

I will get that done, tbh i thought i had done that, and i thought i'd been a member for longer than i have
Ahh well i've started now!!!

[jompy]

Some great advice on here guys, I'd thought i'd throw my opinion in the mix. Basically i think that its down to the individual, some people pick things up better than others. It's all in the wrist, its all in the wrist(happy gilmore stylie). If the linkage between your brain and wrist is good then all should be good, however, if its not then you'll be spending more time thinking about the throttle on a ride than observing your surroundings, getting the right lines and just enjoying yourself. My first bike was a 07 zx6r, after a taxi driver wrote that off i was given a bandit to cruise about on. I loved it, it was a different ride experience. I'm sure i've become a smoother rider for it. Do i wish i had a bandit to start on? tbh No. Do i wish i got a litre bike instead of 600. No. i enjoyed flicking through the gears and thought it would improve my riding.

That's got to be the longest anyone has joined before posting their first post.

Don't suppose you fancy starting your own newbie thread do ya.

I will get that done, tbh i thought i had done that, and i thought i'd been a member for longer than i have
Ahh well i've started now!!!

LMAO you've done the biking history now go get introduced & get some pic's up

[cmsmwoo1]

hiya again folks

I picked up on some of the later stories... Interestingly I was doing a spare (advanced) lesson on the ER6 again - I spoke to the dude who takes me (an acomplished race rider & advanced trainer to boot) he actually rides very little on the roads these days (obviously apart from his job). HE gave me some good sound advice after the lesson while we spent a good 40 mins just talking bikes. I was moaning about the ER6 feeling (what he described I described as sloppy) and got onto the subject of various bikes and I was discussing the fazer 1000 and bandits. I also spoke to him about me looking daft of the R1/R6's gixxers etc. He really made me think. He basically said, when you open up the garage you need to look at your bike and get that feeling - like yeh this is my bike, I love it, I love to ride it etc. etc. I spoke about my change of heart on the R1 as I was interested and not knowing how powerful it was really liked the bike. His opinion is and was, buy a bike for yourself, be careful and whatever you buy you need to respect it and be in charge of the throttle. I asked him it was a ridiculous thought not knowing how powerful it was and he said where I was it would be ok and he wasnt terrified I'd had that thought.

Im not seeing this as a green flag to say I coulda handled an R1 in any way but I found, and still do find it interesting on the different camps - some are pro-"you can do what you want just be careful" and some pro-"take your time and work up to it" - one things for sure - EVERYBODY is trying to look out for you and help so for that I am literally gobsmacked at the community out there and how much time every1 is happy to spend giving advice when it's asked.


thanks all - you rock!!

[joe_bloggs]

hiya again folks

I picked up on some of the later stories... Interestingly I was doing a spare (advanced) lesson on the ER6 again - I spoke to the dude who takes me (an acomplished race rider & advanced trainer to boot) he actually rides very little on the roads these days (obviously apart from his job). HE gave me some good sound advice after the lesson while we spent a good 40 mins just talking bikes. I was moaning about the ER6 feeling (what he described I described as sloppy) and got onto the subject of various bikes and I was discussing the fazer 1000 and bandits. I also spoke to him about me looking daft of the R1/R6's gixxers etc. He really made me think. He basically said, when you open up the garage you need to look at your bike and get that feeling - like yeh this is my bike, I love it, I love to ride it etc. etc. I spoke about my change of heart on the R1 as I was interested and not knowing how powerful it was really liked the bike. His opinion is and was, buy a bike for yourself, be careful and whatever you buy you need to respect it and be in charge of the throttle. I asked him it was a ridiculous thought not knowing how powerful it was and he said where I was it would be ok and he wasnt terrified I'd had that thought.

Im not seeing this as a green flag to say I coulda handled an R1 in any way but I found, and still do find it interesting on the different camps - some are pro-"you can do what you want just be careful" and some pro-"take your time and work up to it" - one things for sure - EVERYBODY is trying to look out for you and help so for that I am literally gobsmacked at the community out there and how much time every1 is happy to spend giving advice when it's asked.


thanks all - you rock!!

Instructor said the same to me lol