All fair and just points being made and personally I am taking them onboard.
Some have said what I have been saying all along and some have added comments that I am now aware of and shall keep in mind.
I hope we can all take something positive from this and use it to make this the #1 R1 forum that even with our arsehole versions of knowledge I'm sure we can make it.
I have bitten and I have bitten hard, that probably shows some failing in my persona (of which I am aware) but a bear is a bear regardless of wether it looks cuddly or not and if poked that bear will bite. Lets not be nieve about cause and effect.
We need to remember that every action has an equal and opposite reaction
Things are not always received as intended so "meaning and intention" must be made very very clear.
We all (me included) must think twice about our posts and stop being reactionary.
We may think that posts will be taken in jest and usually are but at the other end it may not be taken as so and for varying reason.
b1tch wife, bad day at work, family issues blah blah. Thinking twice will allow for these considerations.
many of us have built up a forum relationship where we think we can judge acceptable levels of slagging each other but do we ever consider how noobs will read it? Afterall they know nothing of our personal relations to each other.
That said, if a person feels it is going too far, isn't it the right thing to do by backing off a bit? Are we really trying to piss people off for the sake of some personal little giggle.
We tread a fine line when we do not know how a post will be taken so lets err on the side of caution and have a think about the person on the other end, regardless of who, what bike or whatever.
I am sorry for any comments I have made that offended anyone, it was reactionary from a long running tease that I hope has now been addressed.
personally I am glad this post has been made.
can I add that if we do get more first timers coming here to rip the sh!t is it OK with everyone that we gang up on the fucker and rip them a new hole?